And supposing what you’re saying is true, how the hell does not making comics about women wearing hijab who have depression actually help women wearing hijab who have depression?!
well maybe they wanted to be more diverse. and maybe they don’t really know everything about the religion so to be save they just wanted to be diverse so it shows that anyone can have depression or a mental illness
It is good to see depictions of people of all nationalities and religions being tastefully and respectfully depicted. Some people might deride this because they dislike women with head coverings or the like and assume things about their faith and beliefs… but what is truly important is reminding us that we are all human, and depression can hit any of us. No matter our nationality, our faith, or what have you. 🙂
I know. This is why I wrote this comment. To let you know that this was appreciated and the message understood – that we are all human and all of us struggle with depression.
And also to point out that we shouldn’t make any assumptions. I could very well see someone snatch a head covering off some woman with some snide remark on religion only to find she is a cancer survivor and wearing the head scarf to conceal hair loss. Or that the person is Sihk or Christian or even just likes head coverings. Or is Islamic but it is their choice and we should not judge or assume.
The important thing is that we have a woman who is depressed and is grateful she now has a term for what she feels… and knowledge she is not alone.
So you won’t to pretend like they don’t exist ? How is that logical ? Also just don’t put any Muslim people in your cartoon if you feel that way problems solved
After years of therapy for my own cPTSD-sourced depression and anxiety, I’ve been lucky enough to have found a therapist who is open to ancillary diagnoses that I feel might be important. We discuss why they are important to me (yeah, Freudian) and how they might or might not fit. At the least, it gives names to the unnamed. At best, it provides me with topics to research (binge eating disorder, obsessive-compulsive personality disorder, Asperger’s Syndrome, etc.) so that I may understand myself better. I don’t always tick all the boxes for diagnosis, but I do learn why I lean in those directions. So yeah, naming what’s going on inside my head is a great thing.
Show me a society that isn’t sexist and messed up in many ways :/ Regardless of the clothing, we have to remember there is still a human being under there.
I mean, if stoning a woman because she was raped is ok with you… Or if chemical castration to a female’s groin is ok…. Or if throwing acid on a woman because she is getting an education is ok… Then Islam is fine and dandy. Otherwise, that religion shouldn’t be acknowledged. It’s like when a person is doing something annoying, you ignore them so as to not encourage them.
Just because some interpretations of Islam allows such acts, doesn’t mean it’s Islam that’s the problem. Maybe you should actually read more about radical Islam, such as that which is followed by the Salafis, then you’ll actually learn more. What you’re saying is the same as saying we shouldn’t acknowledge Christianity because of radical Christians. Unless you believe ALL Muslims are radicals, then there’s something seriously wrong with you because if over 1 billion radical Muslims existed then believe me, this world would not be the same.
There are 2 types of followers of Islam: radical Muslims, and misled Muslims. The Islamic faith, just like 90% of all religions, is a bunch of crap. Their prized prophet Muhammed (sp?) has multiple wives. Since when is that ok? People make fun of Mormons, but it’s ok for Muslims. This world is one big fucking hypocrite.
There was a comment thread directed hate towards people and I have have deleted it. This is an inclusive community and hateful intolerant remarks towards groups of people are not welcome here.
I noticed that thread disappeared quickly. I don’t understand how some people can be so obnoxious. I am a big supporter of free speech but some things are just not appropriate at certain times and places. Thanks for being fair minded while policing the trolls and keep the comment section a positive place.
I’m starting therapy soon. I’ve wanted to go for years but only now got the strength to make an appointment. The thing I was most scared of was him saying there was nothing wrong with me, cause that would mean that my life would always be like this, that there was no treatment. Glad to know I’m not the only one who would be relieved to know I have depression.
High-five for starting therapy. Whether or not there is something “wrong”, there is something of concern that you need help understanding. That is what they are there for. You are SO doing the right thing, Pedro.
I’m familiar with this feeling. The desire to have your problem (my problem) aknowledged by someone else as something serious is familiar. And then I talked to a therapist about it. Told him about my deep desire to die and dissappear. He asked a few questions and said that he thinks I don’t have depression. It took a lot to force myself to admit to someone else how much it hurts to simply exist, and this was the reaction that I got. That I’m not sick enough. Making me wonder just how bad does it have to get for someone to take my pain seriously? How much worse it could get then that? Since then I know that it can get much worse. I still do what I have to, and maybe that’s why I get denied this kind of recognition. But since I don’t have anyone to lean on, nothing to fall back on, I have to make the effort to keep my world at least somewhat safe. Why can’t this be enough? How the hell can a therapist not see this as enough? What can I expect from a lay person if this is the reaction of a professional? Thanks for the comic, it’s an important point.
I hear you. Some therapists are…frankly not competent.
Several doctors have laughed and said they don’t need to screen me for depression (I’m already in the mental health system in my country) because I come across too cheerful or whatever. Never mind that I’ve days and nights of wanting to die, researching methods etc. Cried in front of one talking about suicidal thoughts but still got told I’m fine. They asked only a few questions at a very basic level.
I hope you’ve the means / access to see another mental health professional. Your struggles and pain are valid and it sucks that you’re not being believed.
Sometimes a therapist will evaluate your condition based not so much on your symptoms but on their overall effect on your life. If you’re still going to work, paying your bills, maintaining stable relationships, etc., they might not consider it to be very serious. You still need to treat it seriously, though. I hope you find the sort of help you need, so you don’t wind up meeting this therapist’s criteria.
Knowing there are other people with depression just makes me feel that there are more broken souls out there. That’s not a happy thing, and doesn’t give me comfort. However, the thought that mental health professionals have seen what I have and much worse, and have gained the knowledge to help people all along this spectrum, now THAT makes me feel better.
I just binged read and I feel almost all of these SO HARD!!! I have never considered killing myself but I have had strong urges to hurt myself. The depression had had a tight grip lately and these comics are such a comfort. Bless you!
Her relief feels familiar. It can be so helpful to get validation from a professional, especially if you’ve already spent so much time invalidating yourself, convincing yourself that you’re just exaggerating your problems for sympathy… even if you haven’t actually talked to anyone about it. Gotta love that depression logic, eh?
And supposing what you’re saying is true, how the hell does not making comics about women wearing hijab who have depression actually help women wearing hijab who have depression?!
well maybe they wanted to be more diverse. and maybe they don’t really know everything about the religion so to be save they just wanted to be diverse so it shows that anyone can have depression or a mental illness
It is good to see depictions of people of all nationalities and religions being tastefully and respectfully depicted. Some people might deride this because they dislike women with head coverings or the like and assume things about their faith and beliefs… but what is truly important is reminding us that we are all human, and depression can hit any of us. No matter our nationality, our faith, or what have you. 🙂
Yeah. I very much appreciate him going in a more inclusive direction.
There have already been several remarks, sadly.
So well said. To me this comic is about the Human Race not borders language or religion.
I know. This is why I wrote this comment. To let you know that this was appreciated and the message understood – that we are all human and all of us struggle with depression.
And also to point out that we shouldn’t make any assumptions. I could very well see someone snatch a head covering off some woman with some snide remark on religion only to find she is a cancer survivor and wearing the head scarf to conceal hair loss. Or that the person is Sihk or Christian or even just likes head coverings. Or is Islamic but it is their choice and we should not judge or assume.
The important thing is that we have a woman who is depressed and is grateful she now has a term for what she feels… and knowledge she is not alone.
Maybe if they changed their faith, they might not be as depressed, being oppressed and all that.
“I, personally, don’t really appreciate the crucifix, because the Christian faith is sexist and just plain messed up in many other ways.”
I agree with that statement as well
Same goes with what nuns wear
Well, I can really relate to her feeling…
But at least Christians and Catholics aren’t as bad…
So you won’t to pretend like they don’t exist ? How is that logical ? Also just don’t put any Muslim people in your cartoon if you feel that way problems solved
I am against men being portrayed in comics because men are sexist and have been oppressing women for at least ten thousand years.
There. Edited for accuracy.
Men are the reason that the religions discussed here, are the way they are. So, that was pointless.
And actually, your history is a bit off there. Do your research, before you pull out your feminist card.
After years of therapy for my own cPTSD-sourced depression and anxiety, I’ve been lucky enough to have found a therapist who is open to ancillary diagnoses that I feel might be important. We discuss why they are important to me (yeah, Freudian) and how they might or might not fit. At the least, it gives names to the unnamed. At best, it provides me with topics to research (binge eating disorder, obsessive-compulsive personality disorder, Asperger’s Syndrome, etc.) so that I may understand myself better. I don’t always tick all the boxes for diagnosis, but I do learn why I lean in those directions. So yeah, naming what’s going on inside my head is a great thing.
Show me a society that isn’t sexist and messed up in many ways :/
Regardless of the clothing, we have to remember there is still a human being under there.
That is true. But not all people are innocent and good :/
I mean, if stoning a woman because she was raped is ok with you… Or if chemical castration to a female’s groin is ok…. Or if throwing acid on a woman because she is getting an education is ok… Then Islam is fine and dandy. Otherwise, that religion shouldn’t be acknowledged. It’s like when a person is doing something annoying, you ignore them so as to not encourage them.
Just because some interpretations of Islam allows such acts, doesn’t mean it’s Islam that’s the problem. Maybe you should actually read more about radical Islam, such as that which is followed by the Salafis, then you’ll actually learn more.
What you’re saying is the same as saying we shouldn’t acknowledge Christianity because of radical Christians. Unless you believe ALL Muslims are radicals, then there’s something seriously wrong with you because if over 1 billion radical Muslims existed then believe me, this world would not be the same.
There are 2 types of followers of Islam: radical Muslims, and misled Muslims. The Islamic faith, just like 90% of all religions, is a bunch of crap. Their prized prophet Muhammed (sp?) has multiple wives. Since when is that ok? People make fun of Mormons, but it’s ok for Muslims. This world is one big fucking hypocrite.
My doctor and I discussed validation just yesterday. This comic is spot on!
As for the hijab “controversy” I’ll just say don’t feed the troll.
There was a comment thread directed hate towards people and I have have deleted it. This is an inclusive community and hateful intolerant remarks towards groups of people are not welcome here.
I noticed that thread disappeared quickly. I don’t understand how some people can be so obnoxious. I am a big supporter of free speech but some things are just not appropriate at certain times and places. Thanks for being fair minded while policing the trolls and keep the comment section a positive place.
I’m starting therapy soon. I’ve wanted to go for years but only now got the strength to make an appointment. The thing I was most scared of was him saying there was nothing wrong with me, cause that would mean that my life would always be like this, that there was no treatment. Glad to know I’m not the only one who would be relieved to know I have depression.
High-five for starting therapy. Whether or not there is something “wrong”, there is something of concern that you need help understanding. That is what they are there for. You are SO doing the right thing, Pedro.
Validation that there is actually a problem is absolutely relieving.
I’m familiar with this feeling. The desire to have your problem (my problem) aknowledged by someone else as something serious is familiar. And then I talked to a therapist about it. Told him about my deep desire to die and dissappear. He asked a few questions and said that he thinks I don’t have depression. It took a lot to force myself to admit to someone else how much it hurts to simply exist, and this was the reaction that I got. That I’m not sick enough. Making me wonder just how bad does it have to get for someone to take my pain seriously? How much worse it could get then that?
Since then I know that it can get much worse. I still do what I have to, and maybe that’s why I get denied this kind of recognition. But since I don’t have anyone to lean on, nothing to fall back on, I have to make the effort to keep my world at least somewhat safe. Why can’t this be enough? How the hell can a therapist not see this as enough? What can I expect from a lay person if this is the reaction of a professional?
Thanks for the comic, it’s an important point.
I hear you. Some therapists are…frankly not competent.
Several doctors have laughed and said they don’t need to screen me for depression (I’m already in the mental health system in my country) because I come across too cheerful or whatever. Never mind that I’ve days and nights of wanting to die, researching methods etc. Cried in front of one talking about suicidal thoughts but still got told I’m fine. They asked only a few questions at a very basic level.
I hope you’ve the means / access to see another mental health professional. Your struggles and pain are valid and it sucks that you’re not being believed.
Sometimes a therapist will evaluate your condition based not so much on your symptoms but on their overall effect on your life. If you’re still going to work, paying your bills, maintaining stable relationships, etc., they might not consider it to be very serious. You still need to treat it seriously, though. I hope you find the sort of help you need, so you don’t wind up meeting this therapist’s criteria.
Only reading comments I realised that there are nationalities here because, frankly, what does it matter? A human is a human.
Knowing there are other people with depression just makes me feel that there are more broken souls out there. That’s not a happy thing, and doesn’t give me comfort.
However, the thought that mental health professionals have seen what I have and much worse, and have gained the knowledge to help people all along this spectrum, now THAT makes me feel better.
Glad to finally see a positive one in here! 🙂
I just binged read and I feel almost all of these SO HARD!!! I have never considered killing myself but I have had strong urges to hurt myself. The depression had had a tight grip lately and these comics are such a comfort. Bless you!
Her relief feels familiar. It can be so helpful to get validation from a professional, especially if you’ve already spent so much time invalidating yourself, convincing yourself that you’re just exaggerating your problems for sympathy… even if you haven’t actually talked to anyone about it. Gotta love that depression logic, eh?